Posts Tagged ‘Violence and Abuse’

I decided to do a debunking video twice a week till I cannot do anymore due to battery life issues on my Digital camera.  This video debunks a not-so-widespread claim that Doom can train real marksman skills. I’ve debunked it before on a blog post but I’ve decided to debunk it in a video to show off the reasons why this simply isn’t possible. The claim surrounds Paducah, and Micheal Carneal, and was spread by people condemning violent games, claiming he had no practice with a fire arm and Doom taught him how to be an “efficient killer”. My debunking proves that this isn’t the case because the game isn’t realistic enough to train real firearm techniques. I also briefly talk about libel threats to blogs and the reasoning behind me pulling 10+ articles off this blog to prevent that.  My next 2 videos will be done either both next sunday or one next sunday and another next Wednesday.  Not sure which. Don’t know what things I will talk about either. It all depends on what I read before that.  Hope you enjoy it.

Plants vs Zombies, almost dead

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While going on the internet, looking for info on anything anti-gaming,wise, I came across this forum post which is very interesting, considering how in the latest radio show, I touched upon the possibility that the EMA vs Brown decision, had it been upheld, would have led to the “chilling effect” of certain games too violent for the censors to be fined in one store, causing a chain reaction where all stores take them off the shelf. This story is interesting, especially to see what kind of people are complaining about violent games:

I quote:

“Bear in mind, the threat of this bill IS NOT that M rated games will be banned for minors, but VIOLENT games; where the definition is decided by the government.

Now, in my years I’ve seen all of the “governments is evil!” arguments and nothing has ever really panned out from it. However, because this bill is so poorly worded, it has the ability to be abused like no other. For example;
I let my kids play on my steam account if they ask. I tend to watch them because seeing them play reminds me of when I was their age and it really takes me back. However, I keep the mature games on a different steam account so that they don’t accidentally play something like Amnesia and have to sleep with the lights on for the next month.

However, we had some of the neighbors over and I let my kids and some of the neighbor kids play Plants vs Zombies, which is my youngest boy’s favorite. After about ten minutes of laughter coming from the other room, I led to guests to the computer room to watch the kids play, when all hell broke loose.

The cutesy plants appealed to one mother in particular until she saw the zombies. She was in the middle of voicing her concern about having zombies on the screen when the pea shooters popped his head off. With that, she screamed, slammed the laptop lid down and shoved her startled child into the arms of his father and began screeching about how I could be so stupid as to let such a violent game be played by young kids. My oldest (who is a little over eighteen now) groaned at her reaction and she turned her wrath against him as well. At that point, she was asked to leave and given very obvious hints that she was not to come back until her attitude was adjusted.

What I’m getting at here is that the ban isn’t against M games, it’s against violent games. While objecting to plants vs zombies is completely out of line (they just want a dance party!) the fact that they do want to eat your brains and their heads do pop off when killed could be spun as too violent for kids. Now we are in a situation where a store cannot sell a game from some arbitrary list that could change daily. Who will want to carry video games in general after that?

And another good point someone brought up is Steam. You can’t verify age over the Internet easily and because of parents either giving kids credit cards early, or simply “borrowing” mommy and daddy’s, you have a situation where kids have access to violent games without even going to the store. And make no mistake, Steam WILL be sued numerous times if this law passes because of that, unless they make some serious overhauls to their current system of buying games.

tl;dr (first off, quit being so lazy) but it’s the wording of the bill that is worrisome. I’m all for restricting the sale of M rated games, but not “violent” ones since violence is in the eye of the beholder. Also Steam.”

Ok… Plants vs. Zombies…. It’s a free video game that is anything but uber violent. It has no blood. It’s equivalent to Super Mario brothers, but has decapitations of zombies. Yet parents are lumping any game with violent content up their with GTA. If this parent (who, to me must be right wing conservative to find Plants vs Zombies offensive), complains about a game like that than we have issues here, with certain people being brainwashed to believe that all violence in games is harmful.

Reminds me of the day I played shadow warrior, and a person with kids got all offended by the bad language and the cartoon violence of it. Now shadow warrior is far worse than plants vs zombies.  This post really shows how out of touch violence in  games censorship advocates really are…. They’re thinking that any violence in any game could harm a kid. Even cartoon violence.

Now to show off the game that the zombies and decapitation sent this parent into a frenzy on attacking games…

This is what is offending these right wing parenting groups? It looks like Mario Brothers for gods sake. Doesn’t look violent at all….  The game doesn’t even have any kind of real weapons, killing “zombies” is the violent act of the game, no innocent people are killed, unlike GTA (not like killing zombies make kids want to shoot up a school, but I bet some people would argue it does). It’s plants shooting pees at zombies. PEES! NOT BULLETS! The person quoted above was calling this a violent game like it was GTA or something! Only a complete moron could get offended by the content of a game like this… Do we really have a bunch of censorship advocates who want violent games banned (look at this article), based on cartoon violence in games like this?

Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy

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Kids are aggressive. They get into fights all the time. The reasons are so varied that it’s really not fair to label one thing the media keeps leeching itself on to : Violent games.  How do you know it wasn’t bullying? Child Abuse? Drug Abuse? Mental Illnesses?  Bad Parenting? Stupidity? the list goes on. The studies themselves, that seem to show that violent games lead to aggressive behavior, however are a complete farce… They just are.

The methods used are designed to incite the result the anti-gamers want. That result is that violent games always increase aggression. You can’t take several kids, measure their aggression in any way and determine it’s result without careful study of all the factors involved. These hack psychologists don’t do that..  They engineer fake results in many of the studies, (not all, but many).

This is the process used to get that result…

A) Take Half of your study group and make them play ‘non-violent games’ like sports games and puzzle games.

B) take the other half, subject them to electroshock therapy (I’m not kidding you there, I read it off a PDF of a study I cannot find the link to, because the article I linked was on my old blog, which I shut down to avoid libel.), And make them play ‘uber violent games, GTA, Killzone 2,etc…

(From this article)

C) They now select the kids and make them all look at violent imagery or ‘normal imagery’. Then they measure the brainwaves while this is happening.  Problem 1, lack of a reaction  to an image doesn’t mean the game caused the lack of a reaction! It doesn’t prove Aggression at all! All it proves, is Apathy! The lack of caring for a subject… People are offended by different things. Person 1 could find violent image 1 disturbing but person 2 will not. If person 2 played violent games, how the hell do you know it isn’t some other issue causing the ‘lack of brainwaves’, which to me is quite the hack method in determining reaction. It sounds like a very flawed science to measure brainwaves, to determine a response. How do you know the result of the brainwave drop? Out of all the possible results? They don’t test for these results do they? No they don’t. Now the other  problem, is that the kids are going to be aggressive for a time being after being pumped up. They test for  the ‘aggression’ immediately, they don’t wait till later when the levels drop… Now the other, less obvious problem, is that they don’t know what causes the brainwave drop, they don’t know the source. They want to make the games look like the source.. So

(Also From this article)

D) They subject the kids who played violent games to compete against eachother in a game where one kid gets to blast loud noise in the losers ears for a certain amount of seconds. But the time values involved are so small, that it’s not much of a result. The time lapse is literally less than a second in some cases. So the more ‘aggressive’ kid holds down the button a millisecond longer. Yeah… Nice proof there. The point is, is It doesn’t prove aggression… Which is always mixed up with VIOLENCE, by the anti-gamers. Like these kids are at risk of being the next Eric Harris. BS.

E) Fail to even do basic research to eliminate other causes of aggression!  No investigation is done on the kids to see if they might have problems that could lead to aggression, from factors such as bullying/drug abuse/child abuse/etc. It’s not even brought up.

To bring up another point, “desensitization” to violent games doesn’t prove much. All it proves is that your brain has become more accustomed to the violence in the portrayal. It doesn’t mean you will act it out. Watching CSI does the same thing. But another thing bothers me about these studies. What games are the ‘violent’ ones chosen by psychologists. Are they games with violent combat but not disgustingly violent or are they the ones where you gun down people and chop their heads off like GTA. The choice will determine the result. Likewise do they choose sports games or kiddie games. I think they purposely chose ones that will set up the biggest difference between brain scan results and blast test results. Why not? Fudging the study for results isn’t a new thing. I think they should make the kids play 10 violent games OF DIFFERENT violence quantities, not the same one per kid! Same thing with the non-violent ones. How do you trust a study that purposely chooses the least violent game for group 1 and the most violent game for the other group. You don’t.

Another issue is the background of the ‘subjects’. You make a kid who plays violent games (do they check that first?), and make him play Killzone 2, or Modern warfare. He will like it more and become more ‘aggressive’. Then you take someone who plays a lot of puzzle games and he won’t. Do they choose these kinds of people on purpose as well. It’s really flawed if they put in the GTA loving kid to prove aggression when he plays GTA…. Isn’t that biased or what?

All of this will make it so that the aggressive result favors the kids who played the violent games… It’s biased… It’s dirty. It’s a fraud. And it’s being used to create fear mongering among anti-gamer circles that eventually will lead to full Bans on violent games… It has to stop. Prove tendency of violence by other more obvious factors such as mental illness, drugs, etc, not violent games. Millions of kids and adults play violent games. Some of them, the less mature ones, will be more aggressive, but that doesn’t prove they will go on school shooting rampages at all, it just proves they can’t control themselves well enough to stop the aggression. (Aggression =/= Violence!). According to a poster on the article linked above there is not ONE study that proves a casual link between gaming and violence. NOT ONE!

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The Shitstorm surrounding Doom after Columbine came lead to several really bad news stories that made up crap about the game such as the game being licensed to / or from the Military, the ‘fact’ that the game was a ‘School Shooting Simulator’ where you killed ‘innocent children’, and far worse. This Prompted me (foolishly now that I look back) to sign up to a newspaper’s forum in the Area and post my resentment to the nonsense in the media. I posted that the news stories were biased and that the whole thing would lead to video game bans (After I read 2 bills that would have banned the game being voted on in State Senates). The Response was an immediate rude comment from an internet troll which I shall leave unnamed saying that I put my violent game habits ahead of some crap about the rights of the columbine victims, all rather rudely, and spewing out the crap that the game makes some people shoot students therefore it should be banned and crap like that.

It spiraled out of control when some trolls on the forum who were gamers made this person very obnoxious. In all the years I’ve been going through ‘Trollheim’ (A Reference to Norse Mythology – The Abode of Trolls) I have never seen a troll so virulent and evil. Death Threats, swearing, Lewd Sexual References, Saying my Mother should have Aborted me, and worse. In some respects the responses I said were nagging but they wern’t evil but the responses I got back were disgusting. Picking me apart and threatening to ‘crack my skull in’, and worse, the response from me was to gather some other people from the doom community to fight for me, and my Close friend who had been fighting Elvis  trolls on the Times 100 Forums. Regardless the Troll kept attacking everyone who said anything positive about games and would reply to comments not even said to him/her. Always with the same rude ways of quoting every sentence/paragraph said and replying to it with death threats, lewd comments, and worse. The same formula repeated at verbatim. The Troll at one point cited the ‘doom will become reality’ Hoax posted on Eric Harris’s Website as proof of how violent games make people kill. The responses didn’t make our side (the video game community) get really bad  till it was 1 month in and the constant trolling of this person and 2 other allies, all derogatory to gamers ‘quit twiddling with your joysticks’/etc, all seeming to take turns threatening us, all 3 idiots.

So my ‘allies’  got ruder. It was natural. 90% of the Doom Community from 1999+ were assholes anyway, I see now the fault of using them as allies against a troll. I was ‘Feeding’ the Troll so bad I didn’t know it. To make it worse, one thing that ALWAYS sticks in my mind is the fact the Main Troll called me sick in one response to me, then requoted that “you’re sick” and claimed I said it to him in the next response, to make it look like I called him/her/it sick. An Underhanded move. I have yet to see other trolls quote themselves to make themselves look like the victim then threaten to kill the person involved.

Right near the end a suspicious comment popped up and was quickly deleted by the Mods or the Troll. This comment Said that the responses said by us ‘Gamer Shitheads’ were proof that violent games make people violent. It was conveniently deleted no more than 20 minutes later.  Who would post such a thing… Here is the exact quote… ‘I have enough Evidence to prove the effects of violent games’. Something like that. Sounds very lawyerly to me. The email server the troll used were VERY Suspicious around that time. It was, Mail for the law community. My friend, the guy from the Times 100 Forums wanted to use some program that traces emails of people to find out who this moron really was.  Well the Email ( could NOT be traced. He thought the person was a Lawyer…. It turns out the tracing programs only work if the person with the email purposely sends their info to them!  I tried Several sites tracing the email…. Until I checked the email service 5 years later to find out that It had been deleted along with the forums where the threats were posted.

There is a reason I have such a staunch anti-censorship stance. This troll made it this way. Threatening to kill me? Is that really what you need to succeed in getting rid of the ‘devil’ that are violent games? Do you have any shame? No of course not. Because ‘gamer shitheads’ aren’t people, they are school shooters. Sure.