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Lo and behold, me searching “Ban Metal” on facebook, got me this lovely Gem. It’s a site run by a “Jesus Freak” who is singling out all metal for being “noisy screamy satanic trash”.  Not that he has listened to any REAL metal that’s not Metalcore, or Nu-Metal mind you, but still idiots like this piss me off.

 

Let me quote some of his nonsense, and then debunk it.

 

Music should not be used to spread hatred and devil-worship!
It should be pure, harmonious and a joy to listen to for all ages.
It upsets me that screaming and songs about hell make it to the airwaves and before long, the media will be full of this filth!”

 

So metal is now spreading hatred and Devil-Worship. And it isn’t “pure, harmonious and a joy to listen to to all ages”.

 

Ahem:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every single one of these bands is A) NOT satanic, and doesn’t write songs about Hate all that much or at all. If this doesn’t suit the fundies, then a list of all the non-satanic Bands in Metal might due:

(in parentheses is the lyrical subjects)

 

Iron Maiden (history/fiction)

Death (philosophy)

Iced Earth (fiction)

Blind Guardian (fiction/fantasy)

Testament (societal issues)

Anthrax (societal issues)

Metallica (societal issues)

Megadeth (societal issues)

Helloween (don’t be fooled by the title, they are NOT satanic – Fantasy is what they write about)

Rhapsody/Rhapsody of Fire (same band – Fantasy is what they write about)

Dio (Fantasy)

Judas Priest (rebellion/love/history/etc)

Primal Fear (societal issues)

Gamma Ray (societal issues)

Manticora (fiction)

Ensiferum (epic poetry from finland)

Korpiklaani (pagan themes from finland, NOT satanic)

Eluveitie (history/pagan themes)

Einherjer (Norse Mythology/Vikings)

Tyr (Norse Mythology/Vikings)

Dream Theater (Societal Issues/Fiction)

Fates Warning (Societal Issues/Fiction/History)

Queensryche (Societal Issues/Fiction)

Voivod (weird art like lyrics that are cryptic)

Vintersorg (ditto)

Communic (history/etc)

Katatonia (dark depressing lyrics)

My Dying Bride (dark depressing lyrics)

Paradise Lost (dark depressing lyrics)

Rapture (dark depressing lyrics)

Anathema (dark depressing lyrics)

Amorphis (dark depressing lyrics)

 

Now for some Death Metal bands that are NOT satanic:

 

Hypocrisy (Alien Abductions/Conspiraces/etc)

Amon-Amarth (Vikings/Norse Mythology. Anti-christian, sure, but that’s the way Vikings Were in real life, christians tried

to brainwash them at sword point to be Christ Worshippers back in the middle ages)

At the Gates (Nihilism)

Opeth (depressing subjects)

Dark Tranquility (Society)

In Flames (Society/History)

Many others I won’t name that are Melodic Death Metal or Progressive Death Metal.

Only GORE-METAL, and Brutal Death metal have SOME satanic bands, not a whole lot:

 

 

Both of my bands (even though they are extreme)Caustic Euphony (Fiction/Societal Issues/Anti-Censorship)

Unleashing Vengeance (Non-Serious Lyrics/Anti-Censorship/Brainwashing/Corruption/Political/

Fiction/etc)

 

The Following bands are Christian Metal:

 

Black Sabbath

Candlemass

Steel Attack

Extol (and it’s BLACK METAL!)

Stryper

 

Black Metal Bands without Satanic Themes

Behemoth

Enslaved

Borknagar

 

 

Bands with strong anti-religious sentiments that are NOT satanic:

Kreator

Destruction

 

Now for Satanic Bands:

 

Non-Black Metal

Slayer

Mercyful Fate

Venom

 

Possessed

Danzig

Vader

 

 

Black Metal

Mayhem

Emporer

Darkthrone

Burzum

Dark Funeral

Dimmu Borgir

Old Mans Child

 

 

Those are just mainstream bands. In that list 13 are satanic and <drumroll> 48 are NOT!

 

As for “screaming” which I assume is extreme vocal styles like Death and Black Metal:

34 out of  61 are extreme metal bands. 27 are non-extreme. Even though extreme outnumbers non-extreme It’s still really close and saying ALL metal bands are “screamers” is stupid.

 

Now for another point:

 

A lot of “metal” being played on the radio is not metal at all.

It’s either Punk, Nu-Metal (really a kind of alternative), Hard Rock, Shock Rock, Industrial, etc.

 

Marilyn Manson = Shock Rock/Industrial

Ministry = Industrial

Lamb of God = Metalcore (A kind of Punk with metal influences, NOT metal)

Trivium = Metalcore

Bullet  for my Valentine = Metalcore

Tons of other bands like that = Metalcore

Slipknot = Nu-Metal (A kind of alternative)

System of a Down = Nu-Metal

Rage against the machine = Rock with Rap vocals! NOT Metal

Limp Bizkit = Same Thing

GWAR = Shock Rock

Kiss = Rock

Led Zeppelin = Rock

Van Halen = Rock

Ac/dc = Rock

Fear Factory = Industrial

 

A LOT of Popular bands classified under metal are NOT metal at all. The really good bands that are metal are very unpopular and thus would have never even been played on the radio at all! This person claims that : “screaming and songs about hell make it to the airwaves”. He’s probably hearing crap like the above bands, and a lot of these above bands suck! Even I think that, and I’m a metalhead!

Either he’s mistaken by above bands and has never heard any REAL metal, or he’s an idiot using bands like that to scapegoat all metal as Evil. 

 

More crap from him:

 

hey kids… one day ya’ll grow up, and you’ll realize that your life don’t suck and you’ll be ashemed of the loyal headbangers you were… release yourself,and go listen to other kinds of music, wtf, fucking fat teens hating life n’ stuff… i know that you sing that song that you curse, so release yourself fat “sad” kid, Stop trying to be tough listen to this just because you can’t beat the bullys… so get up and become one of them, it’s just a matter of effort.”

 

So our life sucks because were metalheads! WTF! He is demanding we listen to other forms of music. Then he calls us all fat teens who hate life. What the hell is this idiot smoking. 

 

I don’t know if any of you have seen this new video by the slayers, it’s abhorrent #spreadingawareness

 

This “Video” is from 1986! IT’S NOT NEW YOU IDIOT! That’s not #Spreadingawareness, that’s #IMAFUCKINGIDIOT

 

 “I recently discoverd a progressive death metal band by the name of Amen. Needless tosay my interest was peaked -‘Amen’ is one of the most sacred words one can say in the name of the Lord (Jesus) When I heard the music I cannot describe how angry I felt – I immediately ran to my loving wife and gave her a stern telling off for no reason. When I finally came too I was in a hospital bed. Apparently I had a ‘hate attack’ triggered by the repugnant tones of this sinful band. This music is hatred incarnate – #BANMETAL

 

So he is saying it’s evil because it’s death metal? What kind of idiot says that? So the music made him angry? What kind of moron is this?

 

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

I believe a Christian band has infiltrated your legions of debauched heathens and shall be preaching the word of the Lord at one of your terrible concerts, I shall most certainly be there front and centre

 

Photo: John 1:29

The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 

I believe a Christian band has infiltrated your legions of debauched heathens and shall be preaching the word of the Lord at one of your terrible concerts, I shall most certainly be there front and centre

 

 

 So he is calling, Accept, Anthrax, Sabaton (A Power Metal band FFS!), Avantasia (Rock Opera! band), Amorphis, Wolfsbane, Last in Line (Dio Tribute), and KING DIAMOND Heathens? To him Any metal band must be a heathen!

 

 

Metal should be banned for many reasons. Some of them are:

1. It all sounds the same.
2. It’s all just screaming.
3. It causes school shootings.
4. It distracts young people away from the one true path of Christ our savior.
5. Satan is bad and Metal is bad for being satanic.
6. Long hair is for girls.”

 

1 – This idiot thinks all metal sounds the same. Well….. He’s only heard NU-METAL, which is crap played on the radio which isn’t even metal at all, but shitty alternative. He’s never heard Melodeath, Folk Metal, Power Metal, Prog Metal, Progressive Thrash Metal, Doom Metal, Viking Metal, or Black Metal, or Progressive Black Metal. Each genre sounds radically different from the other. 


Melodeath – Brutally heavy, yet lots of melody, harsh vocals, simple riffs mostly.

Folk Metal – Massively Varied Genre, each band sounds radically different from the other because Folk Music is very varied and so is metal, so when you get one band combining one form of folk music with another form of metal it will sound different from a folk metal band using different forms of folk and metal. Ensiferum is Finnish Folk mixed with Melodic Death Metal. Korpiklaani mixes Finnish “Humpa” polka-like music with Thrash Metal. Finntroll mixes that with Black Metal. 

Power Metal – High Pitched non-screaming vocals, fast guitars, epic melodies, classical influence, it’s the entire anthithesis to his argument!

Prog Metal – Complex music structures, long song lengths, softer approach compared to other forms of metal, concept albums, weird sounding riffs, very experimental.

Progressive Thrash Metal – A mix of progressive metal and the very fast aggressive thrash metal style that Metallica and Megadeth Play.

Doom Metal – Haunting melodies, simple song structures, slow drumming, haunting low pitched vocals, depressing lyrical subjects.

Viking Metal – Sounds like black metal with folk metal influences. Lyrics about norse mythology mostly.

Black Metal – Bad production, non-chord, harmonic guitar structure where several guitarists play notes and vary the notes to create an evil sound, fast drumming, very harsh vocals, Evil Satanic Lyrics mostly.

Progressive Black Metal – A hybrid of Prog Metal and Black Metal. Black metal harmonies are used but experimentation means that new harmonies are used a lot more, time changes are quite common, lyrics are NOT satanic like in Normal black metal. Very weird sounding.

All of the above metal subgenres sound very different from eachother! So much for it “sounding all the same!”

 

2 -My List above disproves this totally.

3 – WTF! Last time I checked, there wasn’t a single School shooting triggered by a metal band. This guy is just pulling crap out of his ass now!  Marilyn manson is the only band I know connected to a school shooting and that aint metal! 

4 – Good. Your Savior’s religion Supports beating and raping to control the minds of people to become loyal subjects, torture, Child Molestation, Brainwashing ,since that is what it does all of it’s history is about condemning people for sins (Crap like You’re gonna Burn in Hell for being proud, etc is proof of this. It’s just like the military hazing people saying “you’re not a soldier, you a pile of shit!” in boot camp. Same premise!) and verbal abuse is normal to them. Hell they invented it!

5 – Satan is fiction. Metal is mostly non satanic and you’re an idiot for saying it is!

6 – True, But many metalheads are short-haired like me. IDIOT! 

 

 “One of lady GAGA’s songs has more views than all metal bands in the world.
BAN METAL.”

 

That’s because Lady Gaga is pop, artifical music made with a computer that is easy to get into therefore most people like it. Metal is like classical on guitar, it isn’t mainstream due to crap like Limp Bizkit, Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, etc.

 

He states that metal has some “Scary Crime Statistics” related to it. I looked through a google search to find out more. I came across this site. It’s a blog article talking about “heavy metal killers”. In each of the cases where metal cd’s were found in the posession of a murderer, there is always a more likely cause to their crime then “Metal made me do it”.   I quote:

 

Name: Jared Lee Loughner

Alleged crime: Fired a 9 mm Glock into a crowd outside a Safeway in Tuczon, Ariz., killing six people and injuring 14 others, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

Date of incident: Jan. 8, 2011

Heavy metal gets fingered: “Loughner’s embrace of Bodies — at least as the backdrop to a favorite video — strikes a familiarly chilling chord: The Drowning Pool song served as the soundtrack to a double murder in Oakton, where in 2003, then-19-year-old Joshua Cooke cranked the throbbing tune on his headphones, walked out of his bedroom holding a 12-gauge shotgun and killed his parents.” – Washington Post

A more likely explanation: Loughner is so mentally ill that a judge has deemed him unfit to stand trial.

Name: Kyle Smith

Alleged crime: Killed his his grandparents, David and Rose Garrick, and then set their Midwest City, Okla. house on fire

Date of incident: March 23, 2011

Heavy metal gets fingered: “Inside the walls of the burned home, investigators seized a demonic drawing, a heavy metal CD with a pentagram, along with a hatchet, a samurai sword, a dagger, knives and two gas cans.” – KFOR.com

A more likely explanation: When he pleaded guilty to the crimes in August, Smith told the court he’s being treated for bipolar disorder.

Name: Adam Yahiye Gadahn

Alleged crime: He’s a senior operative in Al-Qaeda, where his chums call him “Azzam the American.”

Date of incident: Gadahn began threatening terrorist attacks on America in 2004.

Heavy metal gets fingered: “As a teenager in Santa Ana, he formed a death metal band called Aphasia. In the early to mid-’90s, he also was a contributing writer to a local Southern California metal zine called Xenocide where he interviewed bands, wrote album reviews and drew artwork.” – The Gauntlet

A more likely explanation: Home-schooled and raised a Christian, Gadahn found fundamentalists “apocalyptic” and “paranoid;” the faith left him feeling “empty.”

Name: Jeffery Todd Guy

Alleged crime: Shot and killed Scott Maxson at Maxson’s home in Billings, Mont.

Date of incident: March 20, 2011

Heavy metal gets fingered: “Guy ‘prominently displayed idols and literature on (Satanism)’ in his home … (Public Defender Christopher) Abbott argued that the items in Guy’s home were associated with Guy’s interest in rock music commonly known as ‘death metal,’ which often uses images of Satan and the occult.” — Billings Gazette

A more likely explanation: During questioning, Guy apparently told police he has “severe mental issues” and blacked out during the crime.

Name: Morne Harmse

Alleged crime: Used a “samurai sword” to kill Jacques Pretorius and attack other classmates and workers at Nic Diederichs Technical High School in Krugersdorp West, South Africa.

Date of incident: Aug. 17, 2008

Heavy metal gets fingered: “‘He came here camouflaged as the guy from Slipknot,’ (Pierre) Eksteen (who directs a South African student support network) told the Times (in South Africa). ‘We know the wrong kind of music and drugs have bad effects. Young people need to be informed of the effects of bad Satanic music.'” – The Guardian (UK)

A more likely explanation: Before the incident, Harmse and friends discussed the ways they would carry out a school massacre. Because totally rational people do that.

Name: Timothy Parlane

Alleged crime: Attacked rival Matthew Hall with two knives, killing him in his Wellington, New Zealand, flat.

Date of incident: Feb. 15, 2011

Heavy metal gets fingered: “A death-metal band member who confessed to the bloodthirsty knife murder of another metaller was a gentle person, his family says – despite his aggressive stage persona.” — The New Zealand Herald

A more likely explanation: Parlane was so suicidal that he stepped in front of a train after confessing his crime to police in early March.

Name: Travis Martel

Alleged crime: Stabbed his girlfriend, Sarah Nicole Rae, to death in his bed in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Date of incident: Aug. 3, 2008

Heavy metal gets fingered: “A deleted video file discovered on Martel’s cellphone showed her lying on a bed as he slowly focused on the spreading red stab wound on her chest. With heavy-metal music blaring in the background, a voice can be heard muttering from behind the camera of the Sony Ericsson flip phone: ‘Good that I said I love you … This sucks. I’ll be there soon with you, baby girl.'” — CBC News

A more likely explanation: Though he told prosecutors the stabbing was an accident, Martel opted to video Rae’s death rather than calling 911. Sensible, right?

Name: Protected by authorities

Alleged crime: Killed his father and seriously injured his mother with a kitchen knife at home, south of Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, UK.

Date of incident: March 25, 2008

Heavy metal gets fingered: “In the years before the attack the boy had shown an increased interest in death, Satan, the afterlife and the heavy metal band Slipknot.” — The Telegraph (Australia)

A more likely explanation: A judge in the case said the teen experienced “delusions and disordered patterns of thought, sourced from his underlying psychotic condition.”

 

You have a bunch of psychotic killers here who listened to metal. 1 is a Al-Queda member for gods sake, and this “ban metal” idiot wants to believe metal made him do his crime, and not being part of a terrorist cell? 1 Was inspired by what they incorrectly call “Death Metal”, which is what they name Satanic extreme metal. They probably mean BLACK METAL!, because 90% of Death Metal is NOT Satanic.  Slipknot, Drowning Pool, some black metal band, a Death metal written or peformed by the Murderer, Slipknot again and some other misc. metal band are named. Notice a pattern? Fake ‘NU-METAL’ such as slipknot and Drowning Pool, which is really alternative, is 90% of the bands scapegoated. The others are black metal and death metal bands the murderers were in.  Not once has a power metal, Thrash Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Folk Metal, Prog Metal or Doom Metal band been named in a major case. It’s only POPULAR  fake metal, and Indie Metal Bands of killers, which are blamed….. Sounds more likely these people were mentally ill, terrorists or psychopaths. One even was Bipolar, another blacked out during the crime. The idiot “Ban Metal” would ignore this obvious evidence to say Metal was to blame and he is an idiot for bringing this up. Metal does not cause crime!

 

I personally, HATE Satanic themes in bands lyrics. Not because it’s evil. I’m an atheist so that doesn’t matter to me. It’s the whole “Spread evil religious attacking lyrics to cause a controversy” angle that gets me. Every one of the above Satanic Bands do this in one shape or other, Especially  the non-black metal ones. For years idiots like the person who made the Ban Metal Page on facebook have been whining about 100% of metal being satanic, 100% of metal fans and bands being part of a satanic cult that molests children and similar. Bands like Slayer are taking advantage of this stereotype to sell records. I think more bands should DITCH the satanic image to get these groups to listen when people like me say “WERE NOT SATANIC!”. 

 

People like this piss me off. It’s always the Westboro Baptist Church types that attack metal, Notice that? The guy Singles out Black Metal and Slayer like Satanic Bands to attack ALL the music I listed above that is NOT satanic. He insults metalheads right and left, he calls us names, he’s an IDIOT.

He calls metal “metal filth”, he calls us “Heathens” and the bands that too. He’s obviously a religious zealot. I cannot stand these people. What he is doing could be considered hate speech. More on that later.



I suggest people who want to spread this educational message that He’s an idiot use this template I set up above to list metal bands by Lyrical theme to prove him wrong. If possible…I won’t because people like this are People I like to avoid because they are Religious Zealot Assholes.  But I don’t mind and actually encourage the following. Post the following text as comments on his page to debunk his claims. 

 

 

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Every single one of these bands is A) NOT satanic, and doesn’t write songs about Hate all that much

Iron Maiden (history/fiction)

Death (philosophy)

Iced Earth (fiction)

Blind Guardian (fiction/fantasy)

Testament (societal issues)

Anthrax (societal issues)

Metallica (societal issues)

Megadeth (societal issues)

Helloween (don’t be fooled by the title, they are NOT satanic – Fantasy is what they write about)

Rhapsody/Rhapsody of Fire (same band – Fantasy is what they write about)

Dio (Fantasy)

Judas Priest (rebellion/love/history/etc)

Primal Fear (societal issues)

Gamma Ray (societal issues)

Manticora (fiction)

Ensiferum (epic poetry from finland)

Korpiklaani (pagan themes from finland, NOT satanic)

Eluveitie (history/pagan themes)

Einherjer (Norse Mythology/Vikings)

Tyr (Norse Mythology/Vikings)

Dream Theater (Societal Issues/Fiction)

Fates Warning (Societal Issues/Fiction/History)

Queensryche (Societal Issues/Fiction)

Voivod (weird art like lyrics that are cryptic)

Vintersorg (ditto)

Communic (history/etc)

Katatonia (dark depressing lyrics)

My Dying Bride (dark depressing lyrics)

Paradise Lost (dark depressing lyrics)

Rapture (dark depressing lyrics)

Anathema (dark depressing lyrics)

Amorphis (dark depressing lyrics)

 

Now for some Death Metal bands that are NOT satanic:

 

Hypocrisy (Alien Abductions/Conspiraces/etc)

Amon-Amarth (Vikings/Norse Mythology. Anti-christian, sure, but that’s the way Vikings Were in real life, christians tried

to brainwash them at sword point to be Christ Worshippers back in the middle ages)

At the Gates (Nihilism)

Opeth (depressing subjects)

Dark Tranquility (Society)

In Flames (Society/History)

Many others I won’t name that are Melodic Death Metal or Progressive Death Metal.

Only GORE-METAL, and Brutal Death metal have SOME satanic bands, not a whole lot:

 

 

 

 

The Following bands are Christian Metal:

 

Black Sabbath

Candlemass

Steel Attack

Extol (and it’s BLACK METAL!)

Stryper

 

Black Metal Bands without Satanic Themes

Behemoth

Enslaved

Borknagar

 

 

Bands with strong anti-religious sentiments that are NOT satanic:

Kreator

Destruction

 

Now for Satanic Bands:

 

Non-Black Metal

Slayer

Mercyful Fate

Venom

Possessed

Danzig

Vader

 

 

Black Metal

Mayhem

Emporer

Darkthrone

Burzum

Dark Funeral

Dimmu Borgir

Old Mans Child

 

Those are just mainstream bands. In that list 13 are satanic and <drumroll> 48 are NOT!

 

As for “screaming” which I assume is extreme vocal styles like Death and Black Metal:

34 out of  61 are extreme metal bands. 27 are non-extreme. Even though extreme outnumbers non-extreme It’s still really close and saying ALL metal bands are “screamers” is stupid.

 

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Send the Above Message in comments to ALL of his posts. If he attacks you, report his site on facebook. Send the message that He’s an IDIOT! If he calls you a heathen, report the site for hate speech on facebook. If he gets enough hate speech comments the site will go down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I was browsing gamepolitics.com when I came across this article. Apparently some moron in the inept Texas crime punishment system is blaming violent games and music for crime. What kind of music? Not heavy metal this time, thank god, but rap, which he hits the nail on the head on, to his credit. He is right about that. But then he goes down  to try to say that playing violent games will make you more likely to commit crime and then attacks various popular games (thank god none of them are actually good games)… I quote:

 

“As the body becomes physiologically accustomed to a little lift from a gateway drug, the person graduates to harder drugs,” Williams said, “I see video games as something where once the thrill of playing a video game is gone, what’s the next step?”

 

He’s basically saying that crime is directly caused by playing violent games. Which is BS, because in the last few years when games were really violent and popular, crime has been dropping.  He is trying to say that gamers become criminals after they get bored of a game. It’s preposterous, stupid, and just a plain fucking lie. There is no way violent games will make you want to commit crime after you get bored of them. I have gotten ‘bored’ of the crappy games I played to death like the ones he mentions, and not once did I want to steal cars for real like I did when I was playing the shitty excuse for a series GTA is. And I don’t know where he gets this info. He has no hard evidence to back up his claim whatsoever here, NONE. And here is proof:

 

“It should be noted that Williams did not cite a single case he had been involved in over the last 28 years where there was a correlation between playing video games and a crime being committed by a juvenile offender.”

 

This is proof that he is pulling BS out of his ass. Like this said there hasn’t been a single cited case where he mentions how a juvenile offender played violent games and then committed a crime. He just says there is but can’t back it up because he’s an anti-gamer asshole.

 

 

“Williams also took the time to list the games “kids are playing today” including Mortal Kombat, Call of Duty, Postal 2, Postal 3, and Grand Theft Auto V. At least he mentioned two games that teens might actually be playing…”

 

He then tries to claim kids are playing these games (GTA, Postal 2/3, Call of Duty and Mortal Kombat). Call of duty he is right about. But the others, not so much. The average age of a gamer today as found out by the ESA is 30. 30! Not a kid. The whole idea that kids play violent games and only kids play them is nonsense that I have debunked on a blog post somewhere in a myths post. It’s nonsense.

 

Notice how he singles out those 5 games and tries to claim all violent games lead to crime? Well I did and this is total bullshit. Games like that are a small percentage of violent games. There are tons of idiots in newspaper articles singling out Postal 2 as an example of what “most violent games are like” to attack the EMA vs Brown Decision. This is no different. It’s blatant stereotyping. There are many shooters/RPG’s/other games that are violent and do NOT push the envelope like GTA or Mortal Kombat does.  GTA and it’s ilk make up less than 10% of total violent games ever made. He is simply using his position, like cops do to try to demean the gaming industry by making it look like these 5 crappy games are good examples of “realistic” violent games (when they are not), and then saying all games cause crime. It’s Bullshit, Don’t believe it. And he’s an ass.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Today, after reading the articles I posted on the Doom Hoaxes, where Doom was blamed for columbine using fake evidence, fabricated in 1999, I decided to write another article about video game related nonsense and how my efforts to debunk such hoaxes have really helped to show how idiotic the doom moral panic was.

 

 

The first such hoax “Doom will become reality”, supposedly was said on Eric Harris’s website but several sites proved that it was fake at the time. But their proof did not get far, because many more sites said this was proof that Doom did in fact cause columbine, all attacking violent video games at the same time. At the time, any and all search results for the phrase lead to sites attacking violent games. My debunking it helped to change that however. Go search for “Doom Will become reality” on google.com and you get this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

My blogs and videos debunking this nonsense are now at the top of the results. Surprise! Saying that the Doom will become reality hoax is just that, over and over again can do wonders to the search results. My stuff has seriously trumped all the anti-gamer nonsense BS sites saying Doom was the cause for the massacre.

But this thing doesn’t end here.

 

Another much more complex hoax involved 3 articles from 3 newspaper saying a modified version of doom was found on Eric Harris’s website/or computer. (it differs per source, weirdly). The modified version of doom had begging students saying a certain phrase and many features doom could not do in 1999. At the time searching for some phrase in the articles themselves led to tons of sites all citing the claims like they were a fact. That is still true. But if you google “modified version of doom columbine” you get the most popular article and my debunkings right below it. Not as successful as the last debunking, but close.

 

 

Now if you googled the phrase “Doom caused columbine” before I mentioned the phrase over and over again with various articles here, you would get tons of sites saying that Doom did in fact cause columbine. Now this is what you get:

 

 

 

 

After the wikipedia article, my debunking is right below! I never expected the debunking to get so high in the search results. I expected that some people would read it and then stow it away, and at best I would get mentioned on some gaming forum. I wasn’t expecting my results on the Doom will become reality hoax to include my articles first. With all the sites (100’s) saying that this hoax is proof doom did cause columbine, you’d expect my post to be much lower, but no.

 

But before we go, I want to do another Fake Doom BS debunking right here. Not quite as popular in the game attacking sites as the 2 last ones but still mentioned from time to time is the following long paragraph written by Harris himself:

 

“everyone should be put to a test. an ULTIMATE DOOM test, see who can survive in an environment using only smarts and military skills. put them in a doom world. no authority, no refuge, no BS copout excuses. If you cant figure out the area of a triangle or what “cation” means, you die! if you cant take down a demon w/ a chainsaw or kill a hell prince w/ a shotgun, you die! fucking snotty rich fuckheads [Censored by J.C.Sheriff Office] who rely on others or on sympathy or $ to get them through life should be put to this challenge. plus it would get rid of all the fat, retarded, crippled, stupid, dumb, ignorant, worthless people of this world. no one is worthy of this planet only me and who ever I choose. there is just no respect for anything higher than your fucking boss or parent. everyone should be shot out into space and only the people I saw should be left behind. 4/12/98″

 

This phrase is clearly talking about doom multi player, not actually putting people in a school shooting situation. Any gamer can see that. But the people who never played video games would see it a different way, because of the way the articles using this against doom quoted it. The “ultimate doom challenge” is clearly just multi player. Not a school shooting. After that he goes into a total psychotic attack against people who are rich and says they should be killed. But this is used to blame doom constantly. How do we debunk this?

 

We look for other references to doom in his writings. In most of them Doom is mentioned with other things such as war, with no context to what they are actually describing, such as “this will be like doom, ww2, the korean war rolled into one”. What is he talking about. You can’t tell. There is no way to know, so how to the anti-gamers know this is about the massacre? They don’t. They just want others to believe it is.  In all of his writings there is plenty of evidence that Doom was NOT influencing him to commit the massacre.. this following quote proves it:

 

“someones bound to say “what were they thinking?” when we go NBK or when we were planning it, so this what I am thinking. “I have a goal to destroy as much as possible so I must not be sidetracked by my feelings of sympathy, mercy, or any of that, so I will force myself to believe that everyone is just another monster from Doom like FH or FS or demons, so It’s either me or them. I have to turn off my feelings.” keep this is mind, I want to burn the world, I want to kill everyone except about 5 people, who I will name later, so If you are reading this you are lucky you escaped my rampage because I wanted to kill you. It will be very tricky getting all of our supplies, explosives, weaponry, ammo, and then hiding it all and then actually planting it all so we can achieve our goal. but if we get busted any time, we start killing then and there, just like Wilks from the AlIENS books, I aint going out without a fight.”

 

Notice how he said he would have to “force himself to believe all students are doom monsters” to turn off his feelings during the massacre? No way is this  something doom did. Look for more references to Doom in the writings I linked and you get one reference to WW2, and one to the doom shotgun, the ultimate doom test and this. That’s it.

 

Speaking of ww2. Why is the obvious fact and motive that Harris was a Nazi fuckhead completely looked over? Do I have to quote the exact quote where he worships hitler/Nazi’s. now. But search for it and you will find more info on his obssession with Nazi’s. Why was this totally ignored by all the groups that attacked doom? It’s all over his writings, Racial Slurs, references to Nazi’s, swastika’s, plane as day to see. Yet this was totally ignored and Doom was blamed instead? WTF!

 

In any ordinary mind this would be much more likely motive than being “brainwashed by doom”. But people in Colorado started blaming doom right and left till it was mass hysteria.  It got so out of control that even I was threatened by some dickhead on a forum over it (long story).  This is just more proof that the people blaming doom, skipping over his hatred of people/love for Nazi’s, are complete idiots. His multiplayer “Ultimate Doom test” was used like the “Doom will become reality hoax” to demonize Doom constantly in  various attack sites, even to this day. It’s rediculous.

At least I can try to stop this nonsense, and I think I have been relatively sucessful.

 

 

 

Damian Ichabod 1 Idiots 0!

 

 

A long time ago a time magazine article about columbine claimed a modified version of doom was found on Eric Harris’s Aol Site, with several dubious features, all which have been debunked by me. The features include a “second shooter”, “infinite ammo and extra weapons for both shooters” and the ability for the shooter who ran out of ammo first, to be killed upon this happening. I debunked these claims many, many times, because frankly, I am disgusted by news articles making up bogus crap to cause moral panics like this.  But I will again…

The “second shooter” would require friendly AI, and in 1999 only one sourceport could even do this, MBF (Marine’s best friend). But here is the issue, the ability to make any enemy in a modified dehacked patch (what Harris would need to do for this to work) requires documentation that didn’t come out till 2000. Now to debunk the “infinite ammo and extra weapons for both shooters”.  Number 1, infinite ammo is possible, but the extra weapons for both shooters is a complete nonsense claim. In 1999 adding new weapons without replacing existing ones was not possible, period. Dehacked was the only way to mod back then and it simply wouldn’t allow you to do this because it was a simple EXE editor to change simple variables. The extra weapons for the second shooter, is the second worst claim in this article, it requires the ability to script an entity to do this, to create a completely new enemy that has the ability to use all weapons the player does, plus the impossible “Extra” weapons, this would require Zdoom, which didn’t have the decorate language built into it necessary to do this till the mid 2000’s.

Now you get the most impossible feature of them all, the ability for the “shooter who ran out ammo first” to die. This is frankly, not even doable without both Hexen format levels that allow you to “tag” any entity to keep track of it so the next part the scripting language to kill them apon running out ammo (also scripted), and the scripted language itself (ACS). This wasn’t even possible till 2001 or later. The article is a bunch of bogus nonsense claims and inflammatory claims such as “They were playing their game in God Mode” and similar. But none of this stopped the writers to spread this nonsense to new articles featuring even more fake claims!!!! The Real stupid thing is that this claim of running out of ammo kills you is IMPOSSIBLE with the “unlimited” mentioned before in the same article!!! This writer got away with this nonsense and almost no one complained? WTF!

Lo and behold, an article by the Rocky Mountain News, mentioned how the same hate site tracking group that supposedly found this impossible to make in 1999 version of doom. But they only mentioned the infinite ammo, extra weapons, and second shooter claim, not the shooter who runs out of ammo dying first. They added their own dubious claim, Begging students that cried a phrase “`Lord, why is this happening to me?”.   This  article would be eventually mirrored on super columbine Massacre RPG’s Site (a sick RPG based on the School Shooting) but eventually was deleted…  But here comes the weird thing. APA (The American Psychological Association started citing the false articles (one of them) in a paper proving “video game aggression” (misquoted as proving video games cause real life violence by many “Experts” on Talk shows or news station reports from 1997 to 2006).  This made it’s way to an essay about the “effects” of violent video games and this is how I traced everything in reverse from the essay, to the APA paper, to the Rocky mountain news, and back to the Times article that made it up, and without me finding the Times and Rocky Mountain News Article I would never be able to debunk this…

Later on A Denverpost Article mentioned the begging students that cried the phrase but the phrase was now “shouted” and changed to “” ‘My Lord, why did you do this to me?’ “.  So which is it? This or the older quote. Neither. It’s fudged, made up, fabricated because they couldn’t even get  the way it was said or the quote right! The Denverpost article also fails to even mention any of the modified doom features besides this so no one would know it’s fake, and mentions that Harris made a Columbine High School Doom level, a known hoax, debunked by Snopes, and supposedly “proven” not to be a hoax by a pro-columbine-conspiracy journalist with no sense of the truth, quoting a report from a student saying Harris Did make the level, but the report in question he mentions most likely was based on the fake news article from the Conneticut Journalist who said the same exact same thing, “A Student friend of Harris said he made the School in Doom” but later own admitted he made the whole claim up. Lovely example of spinning the truth by idiots in Colorado, Isn’t it?

But it’s more than that… The 2 articles for Colorado Newspapers (the Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News ones) are the only ones to mention the very Dubious “begging students” claims that can’t even get the quote screamed by these begging students right, or how the quote was even said… Right after Columbine you got a ridiculously paranoid witch hunt for Video games and their players that was worst in Colorado. People started fanatically believing that violent games and Doom Caused the Massacre, and that there was no other factor, whatsoever. It was a 20’th century Witch Mob! They also thought that  players of such games were sicko sociopaths with no heart, like Eric Harris. This was happening all over Colorado and it lead to ban violent games legislation, and lawsuits. But what triggered it? I have a theory, these articles, indirectly or intentionally triggered it using the people’ preconceptions of violent games as a base.

The “hack Psychologists” who went on talk shows during the 1997 school shooting in Paducah came back in force in 1999 with claims of nonsense, such as how the Military uses games like this to break down the Inhibition to killl, even though a blogger from the Military disproved this here. But the claims that violent games desensitize people to real life violence were starting to be believed and these hack psychologists kept repeating this and the break down the inhibition to kill quote ad-nauseum.  One even wrote a completely fabricated book claiming it was true and hires internet trolls to cite this book in comments attacking violent games in articles in newspaper sites attacking violent games. So what would a person who refuses to question anything they hear and believes it all, and has no gaming and doom modding experience think when they read the denverpost article?, they would assume Harris could easily, in 5 seconds, with a menu in the game, make the supposed mod, and this leads them to believe that “Doom Caused Columbine”. Why? They already believe that violent games make kids desensitized to real violence, which is just another way of saying that the kids playing such games, who before they played the games could tell the difference between reality and fantasy, loose that ability after obsessively playing them. Now combine that with the belief from the article that Harris was able with a click of a button turn doom into a school shooting sim, and you get people who think that this modified version of doom is responsible. Now comes the people wanting to sue id for allowing the game to be easily modified through a menu to make it a school shooting simulator. More backlash happens. Then you get paranoid people who are still trying to mourn the victims of the massacre, and not thinking straight as a result, assume that Doom had the school shooting simulator somewhere in it and it would have to if only “one click of a button” was needed to mod it like that. So in that case “doom” made harris want to kill the kids now, technically. Some people don’t understand games at all, and don’t even know what a Mod is, and they assume the original game is also a school shooting simulator. No where in any of these articles is it even made clear that the modded version required a lot of work with “third party” software and ID has nothing to do with this at all. That didn’t help any… None of the people are non-gamers who read that article understand how doom. They just assume it’s a violent game and they “assume” Doom is a school shooting Simulator. This lead to the BS claim “Doom Caused Columbine” after millions read and misinterpreted this article.

Low and behold, The nonsense surrounding violent games causing violence, has not ended!!!! After the newtown shooting which EVERYONE in the media seemed to blame on violent games. Enter the newest peice of nonsense by the Campaign for a Commercial free Childhood, or what I think they are really trying to be, campaign for censoring for kids…  This article written by a moron from this group on times.com spreads complete nonsense about violent games, without shame, without any recourse, shocking!!!!

So these idiots want a “dialogue” about the “effects” of violent games on kids (to them “effects” are making kids directly want to shoot up a school, nothing less… They want that result, that’s why the mentioned the link as being “almost as great” as the link from smoking cigarrates to cancer. A bullshit excuse everyone uses). Lets begin the debunking of this nonsense:

Research repeatedly demonstrates that, for children, exposure to violent video games, movies and television programs is a risk factor for becoming desensitized to violence, lack of sympathy for victims and aggressive behavior. Proponents for allowing purveyors of violent media unfettered access to children dismiss the research because it is correlational and not causal.”


I went through such research in another post on wordpress and many of the studies are so flawed that it becomes doubtful that they were done for any other purpose to fraudulently find a link between violent games and aggression so the hack psychologists could use them to claim “violent games cause kids to become violent”, which they repeatedly did, misinterpreting the studies. I saw evidence that the study creators purposely hid certain facts from the public, like the fact that they use Electroshock therapy to increase aggression in the violent game playing kids, only to find that the PDF that proved this “disappeared” off the internet a few days after I exposed their nonsense.  Brainscan studies done by certain groups were all funded by one group, the “center” for successful parenting” who’s goal is to  get the medical community, the government and others “change culture” to get rid of violence in entertainment, aka ban violent games and worse, with many of these studies which are all quite fraudulent.  Now the stakes are higher because morons like Nader and Boykin are saying indirectly that they lead to child molestation, or urges of paedophilia, to cause a moral panic.  With such studies linking one thing (violent games) to another (aggression) and dozens of groups saying that it proves something completely different (violent games make kids violent), and then the bombshell that these studies are fraudulent and were funded by groups who want to get rid of all violence in entertainment, It’s hard to even say this claim from the article is even true, it’s just rhetoric designed to “change” culture. The discussion will be about banning violent games, it will come up, and so will paedophilia and child molestation as the next “crime” associated with games and gamers. We gamers are already lowlifes, morons, “gamer shitheads” , people who “should have been aborted”, druggies and even school shooters in the minds of the wackjob anti-gamers out there, what’s to stop them from adding child molestation, rape, and worse to the “effects” of violent games we “exhibit”.




But public health policy is often based on correlation between behavior and harm, and the correlation between media violence and aggression is almost as strong as the link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer — and stronger than other acknowledged public health threats such as the links between not using a condom and sexually transmitted H.I.V., and early exposure to lead and lower I.Q. scores.”

The claim that the “correlation”  between violent games and harm (notice they said “harm” like in violence here, not aggression (like becoming angry here). is as strong as the link between smoking and cancer, is complete nonsense not even proven by a single study, it’s something anti-gamers like this writer have said over and over again in articles attacking games, but not once has any one else even said it’s true. The proof that the studies are all fraudulent and funded by people who want to “change” culture to get rid of violent entertainment, makes them all flawed and not trustworthy in my mind. Any negative bias in the study makes it flawed. Bias = BAD.



Regardless of the role violent media played or didn’t play in the tragic Newtown shootings, children are harmed by frequent exposure to movies, video games, music and TV programs that glorify violence. We shouldn’t let the National Rifle Association’s smoke and mirrors, or the urgent need for gun control and effective, readily available mental health services, distract from the problem of media violence.”


A little contradictory. Isn’t it. this group CCFC is clearly using the tragedy to push their agenda of “stopping” media violence, and this paragraph proves it.  If the the Newtown Shooting did NOT have any contributing  factors from violent games, there is no way that this witch hunt over the violence in games being “examined” by more studies is even needed. But according to them they are still not sure that games caused Newtown. But do they care? Hell NO!

 

 

Returning to the quotes from the article on the New York times:

 



We need to stop allowing children to be targets for marketing violent media,”


“Violent Media” targets kids? A peice on my other blog debunking 5 big anti-violent games myths completely debunks this claim, which is claim 4 in the peice. Quoting my explaination of how this is a myth:




This myth is less drastic than the first one, but is still constantly spread around. The truth is this one has been used in many different ways, all claiming violent games are marketed to kids for different reasons. There isn’t one common reason why this is true… But My article on this (here) basically says that the ESRB ratings are often misconstrued as GOVT enforced by people who do the same thing with MPAA ratings.. They are both voluntary ratings and if a store doesn’t enforce them they don’t get in Legal trouble, unlike what the common belief is.  So when you get a biased study like the PTC ‘secret shopper survey’ that says stores sell M rated games to kids 80% of the time, you get people thinking that the industry is marketing games to kids.

The truth is that a recent FTC study says ESRB ratings are even better than MPAA ratings and enforcement in stores… but that doesn’t really disprove the myth…. What does, however is the target demographic of the industry is 18-35 year olds, according to this page. I have heard this on many articles in gaming sites, so I trust it….  If it were 5-9 year olds like all the anti-gamers keep saying then I wouldn’t even try to debunk this… But I have never heard any kind of evidence to support the biased claim that violent games are marketed to kids that isn’t something ridiculous like “violent game ads in our subway”, or “kids in a game store that sells violent  games that could be seen by a kid”, or recently someone on a forum said this great claim “Look at all the Lego games, proof violent games are marketed to kids” after saying that since there were violent game ads ‘everywhere’ the claim must be true. Basically it’s a lie.”

Complete idiocy and fearmongering and fake evidence/media lie spreading won’t help to fix the issues that caused Newtown. In fact no one has even done any actual medical testing to see what issues Adam Lanza even had (mental illnesses ,etc). It’s all scapegoating and nonsense spreading…. It’s sick and it needs to stop. The country does NOT need to have an Open Discussion on how violent games “Corrupt” kids by making them violent or want to rape babies. We DONT need more scapegoating!